When Zara Tindall was pregnant with her first daughter, Mia, we talked about how she would fit motherhood around her decidedly unsocial schedule of competitive horseriding, which involved her travelling all over Britain and overseas, sleeping in her horse truck.
โWeโll just carry on as normal,โ she told me, explaining that eventing kids just have to fit in with their parents. After all, thatโs what she did with her mum Princess Anne, Zara added.
That was five years ago and now I am back in her Aston Farm home, in the heart of Britainโs green and pleasant Cotswolds, and on the face of it not much has changed.
Zara and husband Mike both have a full schedule of work commitments and theyโre still laughing, joking and sparking off each other like comfortable romantics.
Outside, three of Zaraโs horses โ Cracker, Showtime and Socks (named for his four white socks) โ are exercising in the stable yards and one-year-old boxer Blink is one of many family dogs running in and out.
But hanging in the air around this energetic outdoor life, thereโs definitely a warm glow of slightly frazzled domestic order. For it was just 18 months ago that Miaโs sister, Lena, arrived as the latest addition to the Tindall clan.
So, as I settle down to chat to Zara and Mike about their new world of parenting, Iโm wondering how the โbusiness as usualโ plan panned out.
Zara breaks into a broad smile. โIโm still eventing,โ she says, laughing. And do the girls come with her?
โMia is at school so she can only come on weekends and it depends how far away it is, but yes, theyโve been to a few this year,โ she says.
โIt also depends on how many horses weโve got with us. I think Mia just likes the camping โ itโs probably more like glamping โ in a truck. I donโt think she bothers about watching me too much.โ

Mike had to lift Zara up onto the towering bales for this fun, flirty shot in the hay barn.
(Credit: Photography by Hugo Burnand.)But while Zara is determined to stay very much in the saddle, she concedes itโs not quite been as easy as chucking the children in with the horses and driving off into the โ more often than not, rain-soaked โ great outdoors.
And whether she brings her girls with her to competitions or leaves them at their home (which is down the road from her mumโs residence in Gatcombe Park) involves a lot of variables.
โThe logistics are much greater. You canโt just drop everything anymore. I do have to plan my season around the kids and what theyโre up to.
โTheyโre very much part of our lives and what we do anyway. But I have to work out how to fit everything in. You look back and realise how much time you used to have before you had kids and then wonder, what was I doing with it?
โWe make sure weโre looking after the kids properly and then our jobs come alongside. Itโs about putting everything into place,โ she explains.
Fortunately, so far Mia and Lena are loving their motherโs horsey life.
โThey both ride,โ says Zara, looking rather pleased. โLena is in a little basket on the saddle, purely a passenger. But we just bought Mia a new pony called Magic.โ

Zara Tindall competed in the Whatley Manor Gatcombe International Horse Trials in September this year, riding her horse, Gladstone.
(Credit: Getty Images)โShould be called Magic Millions, right?โ jokes Mike, name checking the Australian race carnival Zara has been the ambassador of since 2012 (which weโll come to later).
I ask Mike if he thinks Mia is a chip off her motherโs equestrian block.
โShe can be,โ he muses. โSheโs going through that period where she thinks she knows what to do so we have someone teaching her. Her cousins, Savannah and Isla, and [their father] Zaraโs brother, Peter Phillips, all ride as well and they go riding together.โ
Zara is thrilled their girls are enjoying hanging out with the horses, but she also wants to make sure they find their own paths.
โI love that they have the opportunity of working with animals, being outside, all the traditions that you learn with treating an animal โ looking after your stuff, looking after the animals and learning good balance, all those skills you learn โ but I think Mia will probably want to do her own thing anyway.โ

A joyful Zara and Mia at the Gatcombe International Horse Trials in September 2019.
(Credit: Getty Images)Proud dad
Mike, who no longer plays rugby โ he retired from the professional game in July 2014 โ but is still heavily involved in the sport, is relishing the new pace of family life.
โI think itโs superb. Mia is a fantastic bundle of energy and that challenges you as well and keeps it interesting. Lena is just starting to find her feet, but weโve enjoyed every minute of it. You hope thatโs what kids do to you and itโs been great.โ
The 1.87m burly Yorkshireman has now found himself in a house full of women and he couldnโt be happier.
โThree female dogs [and] my three girls. Plus we have lots of girls on the yard working with Zara โฆ at least Iโve got Pete, my brother-in-law. And Andy, who works on the farm as well,โ he jokes.
Before Mia and Lena came along, Mike confesses he did think he might like a son, but now he wouldnโt have it any other way.

The happy family enjoyed a day out together at The Big Feastival in Kingham, Oxfordshire, in August 2016.
โI was so happy with how Mia was as a girl that I wasnโt really bothered either way and when Lena was coming along I wasnโt bothered at all [about] what we got. I was just happy to be having another child,โ he says.
Zara suffered two miscarriages in between Mia and Lena, and talked candidly in a UK TV interview about the coupleโs heartache through both.
โI think the hardest thing in our situation was that everyone knew,โ she said. โNormally itโs just your family and friends.โ
She said Mike had been โincredible โฆ Itโs very different for us because weโre carrying the child, but for guys itโs kind of that helpless feeling, which must be incredibly high and horrible for them. At the end of the day theyโve still lost a child too.โ
Mike has thrown himself into fatherhood and I sense the Tindall parenting is pretty much 50/50. Does he change nappies?
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โOh yes. I definitely do that. I think youโve got to now. Thatโs part of the enjoyment anyway, doing the full thing,โ he says proudly.
As for the mythical โspecial bondโ between a father and his daughters, Mike says, โYes, itโs true. I do think that girls look to their dads to be able to get away with things.โ
At 38, Zara knows she needs to literally get back on the horse if sheโs to stay on top of her career, and she and Mike, 41, work as a team looking after the girls. For Zara, the most urgent concern was getting herself back into competition shape following Lenaโs birth.
โI think it was easier the second time around to figure out what you needed to do, how long your body takes to get itself back into semi-physical working shape,โ she explains.
โThe second time your body goes, โoh yes, okay, Iโve done that beforeโ.
โIt almost has a motor program, whereas when you return [after pregnancy] the first time around I think the body goes into shock and says, โI havenโt done this beforeโ.
โBut no matter how prepared you get physically for giving birth, your body is never quite the same. For me trying to get my body physically strong enough to do the right job on the horse, getting it back to where I was before the pregnancy takes a lot of work.
โI go to the gym, ride the bike, run a bit and swim if I can. Iโve been competing since this time last year so Iโm just getting back into it.โ
Zara would love to compete in another Olympics โ she won a silver medal at the 2012 London Olympic Games โ but says itโs not just about her own readiness, itโs about having the right horse.
โIโve got a horse [Class Affair], heโs a nice horse for the future; whether heโs going to be quite ready to go to the next Olympics Iโm not sure โ physically, mentally, experience-wise, he might not be quite ready for that.โ
In her sport, Zara notes, women compete into their fifties so sheโs not panicking yet.
โLuckily in eventing it depends on the horse. If youโve got a good horse and the combination works, then you can go on a lot longer.โ
But like all mums, Zara can be prey to bouts of mother guilt, even though they have staff to help take the strain.
โIf Iโm away and Mikeโs here I donโt feel as guilty, whereas if weโre both away then I feel much more guilty.โ

โI think weโre challenging the stigma of racing being a male-dominated sport,โ says Zara of Magic Millions.
(Credit: Photography by Hugo Burnand.)Mia is a real livewire and already at school.
โShe goes to the local village school in Minchinhampton, which she loves. Sheโs a very active child. She does gymnastics and a lot of swimming, tennis, skiing, surfing.โ Sound familiar?
I ask both parents โ separately โ if now that girls can play rugby, theyโd be happy if Mia and later Lena wanted to take up their fatherโs sport.
โI have no issues with it,โ says Mike immediately.
โIf I was completely honest, I would really like Mia to go for tag rugby because I think itโs fantastic for body awareness, athletic ability and just a general all-round hand-eye co-ordination.
โWould I really want her to play contact? Probably not, just because of my experiences of how hard it is. The girlsโ side is not quite up to the menโs side in terms of what you can do as a professional but if she wants to play Iโm never going to stop her. If she finds a love for it and wants to go on, then so be it.โ

Mike and Zara with Ronan Keating and his wife at a recent black tie event.
(Credit: Getty)Zara, however, is not as thrilled with the idea.
โNo, no,โ she says, shaking her head. โIโve had a husband playing rugby and Iโm not sure I would want my daughter playing. They say the game is like being in two car crashes a week. They just run into each other. I donโt think I would be able to watch my daughters do that.
โI guess you want your children to experience anything but at the end of the day theyโre going to do what they want to do anyway.โ
Mikeโs answer?
โI keep giving her a golf club. โWhy donโt you play golf?โ, I say. And then I can go and play golf with her,โ he grins.
Fun in Australia
One thing the Tindall girls will definitely be experiencing โ and soon โ is sun, surf and swimming in Australia.
Since Katie Page-Harvey, Magic Millions co-owner and chief executive of Harvey Norman, signed Zara to be the inaugural Magic Millions Racing Women Ambassador in 2012, she and Mike have been regular visitors to the Gold Coast and Australia.
The Aussie vibe suits this very unroyal, laidback couple perfectly and they tell me that they now see Australia as their second home and canโt wait for their annual January jaunt Down Under. And this year, for the first time, they are bringing both daughters with them.
โLenaโs been flying a couple of times but nothing long. I think Greece is probably the furthest sheโs been, but Mia loves flying. She always has,โ says Mike.
โSheโll be very overexcited,โ adds Zara. โLena is a little bit smaller so that will be just trying to keep her in one place for long enough.โ

Zara walks daughter Lena Tindall around the jumping castles at the 2019 Festival of British Eventing at Gatcombe Park in August 2019.
(Credit: Getty Images)โEarly January is bleak over here so itโs nice to go and have a bit of sun. I love the lifestyle of Australia and the ability to get up early, go on the beach โ especially for the kids, taking them in the ocean is brilliant,โ says Mike.
โI just think the people over in Australia are so laidback and they have good banter. No oneโs worried about talking to each other. Itโs not a rushed lifestyle. I think itโs a great place and we enjoy it so much.โ
Zara adds, โMia loves swimming. Of course, the climate allows you to be able to go swimming all day every day. When we first took her to Australia she was 11 months old; we kickstarted her love of water.โ
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Mike explains: โShe swims twice a week at home with lessons. If sheโs anywhere near a pool sheโd be in there all day. And that came from Australia when we went for six weeks when she was three and stayed at a place that had a pool. It was all she wanted to do.โ
This time Mike says he wants to introduce Mia to surfing.
โShe hasnโt done that much in the ocean but she had a few surf lessons down in Devon [on Englandโs southwest coast] this year, so it will be quite good to try and get her out on a board in Australia.โ
Will Dad be joining her? Mike laughs.
โI basically make the board sink when I try to stand up on it. It literally has to be the size of a Cadillac for me. I quite enjoy it though. We tried last year and Iโm sure weโll have a go again. I know that Mia will want to go out so weโll definitely have another go.โ
The family has an established group of mates in Australia who they catch up with and Mia is already well versed in the top tourist attractions.
โIn Sydney with Mia, I have done the Bridge Run and we visited the Zoo. Then on the Gold Coast we went to Sea World and Movie World last year.
โWeโve now also made lots of new friends in the Magic Millions family. So I get to renew my golf rivalry with Gerry [Harvey] every year โ always good fun,โ says Mike.

Zara and Mike Tindall attend the Magic Millions Raceday at the Gold Coast Turf Club in January, 2019 on the Gold Coast.
(Credit: Getty Images)Gold Coast magic
Zara is rightly chuffed that the Magic Millions has become such a beacon for women in her industry.
โI think weโre challenging the stigma of racing being a male-dominated sport,โ she says.
โThere were a lot of male-owned horses and to be able to get more females involved was Katieโs original idea. There are way more female jockeys now, thereโs more females in the sport, so I think globally we wanted it to happen in every sphere of racing, which I think weโve managed.โ
The Carnival and Raceday has developed into a first-class thoroughbred event, now in the worldโs top 10 richest race meets.
The โRacing Womenโ initiative, of which Zara is patron, champions the participation of women in the sport with an enticing prize money bonus of $500,000 distributed between the first four all-female owned or leased horses, on top of the prize money.

As the daughter of accomplished equestrian Princess Anne, Zara was destined for competitive riding.
(Credit: Photography by Hugo Burnand.)โEvery yearโs been more of a success than the year before. The amount of women who are now involved with racehorses and the number of times that the bonus has been won is fantastic,โ says Zara.
When Mike Tindall was a lad growing up in Otley, in Englandโs north, he says the closest he got to horseracing was working on the fish and chip vans at York or Chester races. Jump forward a couple of decades and Mike is now a regular in the royal box at Ascot, Cheltenham et al. So how does Magic Millions compare?
โRoyal Ascot is fantastic but itโs more dressing up in formal gear. Then youโve got Cheltenham which is somewhere in between but itโs not really warm, youโre in your coats; whereas this is just pure summer fun. People are far more relaxed. No oneโs worrying about what people are thinking. Youโre free to dress however you want to and I like that. And now weโve got the polo as well,โ he says.

Zara with her mother, Princess Anne, watching the racing on day 1 โChampion Dayโ of the Cheltenham Festival in March, 2019.
(Credit: Getty Images)Bringing polo to the Gold Coast in the heart of summer may sound like madness and it does get very sticky, but since the first match in 2017 itโs become a showstopper with a distinctly Aussie edge.
โI love polo, itโs a great game to play โฆ a little bit hard on the Gold Coast because itโs so hot, but itโs good fun and since Nacho Figueras [the Argentinian polo heart-throb] came on board itโs been even better. He really is a great global polo player and makes such an event of it.
โThis year we have also got [acclaimed British jockey] Frankie Dettori,โ says Zara.
Zara plays and in the commentary box is Mike.
โI try not to stand next to Nacho for too long, it makes me feel bad about myself,โ he jokes.

Zara and Mike remain close friends with Zaraโs cousin, Prince Harry, and attended Easter service together.
(Credit: Getty Images)โI get to commentate on it with [Seven Sportโs] Hamish McClachlan and we see how many one-liners we can throw out. Obviously I support my wifeโs team and try to put the opposition under pressure.โ
Does Mike think heโll ever join Zara on the polo field?
โIโve said for three years Iโve got to learn to play polo and Iโve yet to fulfil that dream. Riding would be my main issue. I think Iโd be all right at hitting balls. Iโd be good at walking polo. Itโs the horsemanship Iโd struggle with.
โZara is so busy at the moment โ she hasnโt had time to coach me โ and I donโt really have a horse to do it with, so it keeps being pushed back. But at some point I will vow to learn and spend the year getting ready for it.โ
As they both talk itโs clear Australia has become a really happy place for the Tindalls so I have to ask: Would they consider moving Down Under?
โProbably not while Iโm still competing. It would be a little bit hard commuting. But after that โฆ yes, I think if an opportunity came up weโd definitely think about it.โ
The Magic Millions Carnival runs from January 5-11, starting with polo at The Spit at 11.30am on January 5. For tickets visit magicmillions.com.au.
The January 2020 issue of The Australian Womenโs Weekly is on sale now.
